Willtell
7:58 Thu Mar 23
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goose
Deflection after deflection after deflection. You even accuse me of it you lying sicko. Some front too. What we’re you arguing about then for weeks then mr shit for brains?
Tell us about this legally binding contract for Kretinsky to buy the club only you keep avoiding an answer….
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goose
6:40 Thu Mar 23
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why the fuck do you keep re-hashing this you silly old fool?
you claim i said they'd be gone by the summer - i never did.
i point this out to you and you say i'm full of shit??
you're fucking senile.
like i said earlier today, you're just bitter because you've had your pants pulled down so many times on this subject.
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Willtell
6:36 Thu Mar 23
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You are full of shit goose. The subject was Moyes Kretinsky and Sullivan. That’s why you disagreed with my post. That confirmed what the subject was about - Moyes going before summer. And stop deflecting.
Tell us all about Kretinsky’s agreement to buy WHU… take your time goose or you could just apologise for being a lying shit I suppose…
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goose
6:13 Thu Mar 23
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so where did i say they would both be gone by the summer?
take your time...........
btw the response you c&p from me is about DK not about Moyes, i've not mentioned Moyes once.
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Willtell
5:36 Thu Mar 23
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goose 3:33 Thu Mar 23
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"You and others said Kretinsky would take over from Sullivan and then sack Moyes before the end of the season"
that's a massive lie right there you silly old fool.
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Oh is it now? here's my original post -
Willtell 12:38 Tue Feb 28
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I don't know why some still think Moyes will go in summer. It's more likely that he will stay as his contract doesn't expire until June 2024.
Obviously if we just scrape through to avoid relegation he will have to go. However, if he does turn over a new leaf and we climb the PL plus get to a final or two he'll probably stay next season too.
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That got this reaction from you....
goose 1:31 Thu Mar 2
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Willtell 6:58 Tue Feb 28
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Expecting Sullivan will sell and Kretinsky will buy then sack Moyes is just wishful thinking…
You mean aside from the legally binding agreement DK has to buy the club?
Tell us all about this legally binding agreement for Kretinsky to buy the club will you goose? Or you could apologise I supose...
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Willtell 4:30 Thu Mar 2
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Let's be clear. I hope we don't have to endure Moyes next season same as you all.
A few posters were posting as if it is a foregone conclusion that Moyes won't be here. As I say I hope he won't be but that is wishful thinking from me you and everyone else.
You were all convinced he'd be fired in the WC break and I agree he should have been fired.
I'd love Sullivan to be gone too but it's also wishful thinking. All I'm saying is that until there's an announcement - don't count on it. If you can't handle that opinion then stop bothering me with your childish waffle.
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Westside
3:34 Thu Mar 23
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Best way to asset strip is load with debt and make divis or interest payments.
Very difficult to asset strip West ham with dividends. they currently have no "distributable reserves." Only way to pay dividends, would be out of future profits. Which will be very limited, once we are relegated and have sold Rice, for a windfall profit,
As for stripping via loan interest payments, West Ham would at least have the benefit of receiving and spending the loans.
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goose
3:33 Thu Mar 23
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"You and others said Kretinsky would take over from Sullivan and then sack Moyes before the end of the season"
that's a massive lie right there you silly old fool.
nothing can top you begging westside for his informed opinion only for him to completely mug you off.
and then there was LJC making you look silly.
and yet you keep trying to re-hash the same argument. you're just a boring old fool who can't handle being wrong.
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero
3:03 Thu Mar 23
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El S
No doubt the devious Sullivan would do what you suggest if he could, but the already relegation-ravaged value of the club would almost certainly fall by more than the amount he would be able to trouser through sales.
I think Sullivan will have enough problems just trying to keep the business solvent without trying anything devious. In fact, what you suggest might well happen, probably will happen in fact, but it won't be because it benefits Sullivan to do it. It'll be because we'll be bust if he doesn't.
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Willtell
2:54 Thu Mar 23
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goose 12:03 Thu Mar 23
You're very good at spinning facts that are so disingenuous that Boris needs you to spin the lies for him. No-one has pulled my pants down and it's just your full of shit lying spin.
You and others said Kretinsky would take over from Sullivan and then sack Moyes before the end of the season.
I said that as much as I hoped it would happen it was wishful thinking. I have given my reasons for thinking it's not likely to happen so soon but I still hope it does happen.
Then you and others tried to spin me saying it was a fact that it wouldn't happen which was a lie. I'd like you to show where I said that it was a fact that it wouldn't happen please?
You then claim that if it happens at all it is "not wishful thinking". Again just you being a full of shit liar. I have always hoped that it does happen but barrels of diarrhoea like you can't help themselves...
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BRANDED
2:32 Thu Mar 23
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Best way to asset strip is load with debt and make divis or interest payments. Classic corporate wedge transfer. Plus rent premises. Or list.
If you list or sell you want the highest price which will be primarily based upon income plus asset values. Getting rid oc good staff is utter madness.
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El Scorchio
2:25 Thu Mar 23
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Possibly! I guess it all depends what’s in their contracts. Granted we’ll be a bit over a barrel if we are relegated but you’d imagine could get the best part of 200 million for Rice, Scamacca, Paqueta, Zouma, Bowen and Aguerd assuming they would all go.
Spend just half that income on replacements, for example, and that’s a nice wedge to have in one’s back pocket. Yes I know a transfer is a complex thing but I’m sure there’s some money to be creamed off which would soften the financial blow of relegation on our poor innocent honourable owner.
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero
1:37 Thu Mar 23
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El Scorchio
I'm not sure asset stripping works that way. We have a bunch of players who we will be unable to sell at book value if relegated. Many of the better ones probably have clauses to that effect in their contracts.
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El Scorchio
1:30 Thu Mar 23
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Sullivan’s whole plan has been to cut and run after seeing out the clause to maximise the amount he could leech from the club. It’s been a long term plan and he’s not going to abandon it for a cut price return at the last minute. It’s not a matter of if but when he will sell.
I’ve no doubt it would be an imminent formality if we were not in relegation trouble. As soon as it’s confirmed we are safe no doubt he cashes in and also has the perfect ‘this season has been hell. The fans have made my life a misery. I’ve done EVERYTHING for this club. Europe, top 7 finishes.’ excuse to paint himself as a saint and us as ungrateful cunts.
Should we go down, after we’ve hopefully come back up he will use the same narrative before exiting.
We ain’t getting sold if we’re not in the premier league though. I’m certain of it, unless the cost of getting us back up is presumed greater than the ultimate return upon selling. Relegation is a superb excuse for a massive asset stripping of players though. All that can slide into a back pocket as well. IT’S ONLY FAIR. IT’S HIS MONEY AND HE’S EARNED IT. BE GRATEFUL.
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southwoodford
12:07 Thu Mar 23
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In terms of ROI, Sullivan must be thinking this could be as good as it gets. Balancing the loss of his long time business partner, his own advancing years and changing personal priorities I find it hard to understand quite what he gets out of owning the club other than a lot of aggravation. Which just leaves the money. And that could be a diminishing return.
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goose
12:03 Thu Mar 23
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You've had your pants pulled down about 3 times on the same subject matter, but you keep re-hashing it in some desperate attempt to look right.
All you're doing is looking increasingly stupid.
If something will "almost certainly" happen one day then it's not wishful thinking is it you div.
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Willtell
11:55 Thu Mar 23
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You lot are extremely boring wankers. You're obviously incapable of accepting reasoned opinions and although we all want it to happen, spew hate at the messenger.
Keep on wishful thinking chaps. You almost certainly will one day be right...
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Lee Trundle
11:22 Thu Mar 23
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Seeing Willtell desperately try to put his point across that Sullivan won't sell up fills me with confidence he actually will.
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goose
11:21 Thu Mar 23
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you're a tedious old bore.
that's a fucking fact.
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Willtell
11:19 Thu Mar 23
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Kretinsky has an option to buy shares at the same price he paid when he bought his 27% stake but we don't know how long that option lasts. If Kretinsky makes an offer to buy Sullivan's shares at that price, he has to make the offer to all the main shareholders. According to the Guardian though Sullivan has first option on the Gold shares.
Sullivan's first option means that he could keep a majority shareholding in WH if he wants to buy the Gold shares for that price.
I have no doubts that if we get relegated, Kretinsky will not buy Sullivan's shares at that 2021 PL price. He can't buy Gold's shares either unless Sullivan declines the first option. So Sullivan retains a certain element of control of the boardroom situation it seems.
So, I'm sorry to piss on anyone's cornflakes this morning but it isn't looking too hopeful that Sullivan will sell soon for these 3 reasons.
1/ The Gold family shares will be in probate and possibly even double probate which I have read in the media will tie them up for at least 6 months.
2/ While relegation is a real threat Kretinsky is unlikely to pay a PL option price for a potentially Championship club. That could change by summer of course.
3/ Sullivan is greedy little fucker and is unlikely to sell for a Championship price when next year he could be back in the PL.
Unless of course there are other circumstances we don't know about that could affect his desire to continue at WH like bad health perhaps? But then why would he sell WH to buy Cardiff?
We all want Sullivan and Moyes gone but it is wishful thinking imho...
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diehardhammer
10:24 Thu Mar 23
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I thought the rumour was Sullivan is going to buy cardiff as soon as the West Ham sale is completed
I think as soon as confirmed we are safe at the end of the season, kretinsky will buy gold or Sullivan’s shares, then either pump money in or just sell the club asap
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british is best
9:51 Thu Mar 23
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Sullivan has already let it be known. that he's looking to buy a smaller club according to Jacob Steinberg and if anyone knows anything it's him .
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